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Post by guitarman on Apr 15, 2023 8:57:39 GMT
I'm in the process of buying this! That TFW 1911 has just arrived and on initial inspection, looks even better than those photos in the UBC ad. I'm not a fan of those plain-finish wood grips, so I'll probably be selling those on, same for the 2 holsters. Having a spare magazine will be really useful. Going to have to make my mind up whether I should give the pistol a similar distressed finish as my other one (see photo. below), or maybe just polish the outer barrel and ejection port cover. What do you think...  D3D3733A-C7A0-4DA0-9C7B-6E6D39610C93_1_201_a by stephen davies, on Flickr |
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Post by HeadHunter on Apr 15, 2023 10:02:00 GMT
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Post by guitarman on Apr 15, 2023 10:30:35 GMT
I'd have to strip it Shaun and despite your excellent 'how to' article (great stuff...read it in its entirety the other day and realised for the first time, that the recoil spring has a narrow and a wide end!) because of that requirement, I'm still a bit chicken to go down the fully-polished route. Maybe one day....
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Post by twodoctors on Apr 15, 2023 22:30:47 GMT
I'm in the process of buying this! That TFW 1911 has just arrived and on initial inspection, looks even better than those photos in the UBC ad. I'm not a fan of those plain-finish wood grips, so I'll probably be selling those on, same for the 2 holsters. Having a spare magazine will be really useful. Going to have to make my mind up whether I should give the pistol a similar distressed finish as my other one (see photo. below), or maybe just polish the outer barrel and ejection port cover. What do you think... DA0-9C7B-6E6D39610C93_1_201_a by stephen davies, on Flickr Sorry I moved your post to here so we can continue the discussion and I can close the "bargain" thread off. |
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Post by ifield on Apr 16, 2023 5:07:05 GMT
I would leave it as it is a beautiful gun.
In my opinion you can't improve it.
Maybe the gate as you say but no more.
My humble opinion.
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Post by HeadHunter on Apr 16, 2023 13:23:36 GMT
That TFW 1911 has just arrived and on initial inspection, looks even better than those photos in the UBC ad. I'm not a fan of those plain-finish wood grips, so I'll probably be selling those on, same for the 2 holsters. Having a spare magazine will be really useful. Going to have to make my mind up whether I should give the pistol a similar distressed finish as my other one (see photo. below), or maybe just polish the outer barrel and ejection port cover. What do you think... DA0-9C7B-6E6D39610C93_1_201_a by stephen davies, on Flickr Sorry I moved your post to here so we can continue the discussion and I can close the "bargain" thread off. Good call Adrian  |
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Post by guitarman on Apr 17, 2023 8:36:40 GMT
I'm in the process of buying this! That TFW 1911 has just arrived and on initial inspection, looks even better than those photos in the UBC ad. I'm not a fan of those plain-finish wood grips, so I'll probably be selling those on, same for the 2 holsters. Having a spare magazine will be really useful. Going to have to make my mind up whether I should give the pistol a similar distressed finish as my other one (see photo. below), or maybe just polish the outer barrel and ejection port cover. What do you think... D3D3733A-C7A0-4DA0-9C7B-6E6D39610C93_1_201_a by stephen davies, on Flickr Oh dear.....! Further to this post, I've had a chance to test fire the pistol and sadly, it's pristine looks just flatter to deceive..... After the initial 3 shots, I felt that the trigger hadn't re-set and didn't fire, so I had to slightly depress/release it a second time, upon which it fired rather unexpectedly! This pattern continued, every few shots throughout that first magazine, but that was by no means the only little surprise the pistol had in store for me, oh no...... Soldiering on with a 2nd mag., putting the pistol down for some reason, with the hammer cocked, I engaged the safety. Picking the it up again to re-commence shooting, I slipped the safety off and upon doing so, it fired of its own accord, without me touching the trigger! Mega scary and very fortunate that the BB missed my kitchen window! Trying to get to the bottom of this quite frightening phenomenon, I investigated further. I discovered that, for some reason, if the safety was engaged with the pistol cocked AND if you inadvertently even slightly depressed the trigger/strap safety, upon releasing the frame safety, the pistol fired on its own. Not good at all chaps.... Anyway, contact with the seller about this issue was met with a not unexpected response of, "Well, like you asked me to do, I tested the pistol with 2 magazines prior to despatch and it held gas & cycled perfectly." I politely maintained that this did not tally with my experience of it, a scant 48 hours later and unless these faults had mysteriously developed in transit, something didn't really ring true. To cut a long (and disappointing) story short, we had a somewhat long and often frank (!) exchange over the course of the next day and the result was a part refund that was as mutually satisfactory in the circumstances as it could be. Well, I don't think that I have the expertise to remedy these rather alarming 'quirks,' so I think that I'll probably be advertising it, accurately described, as a 'spares-or-repair' project. Shame....... |
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Post by CaptDAR on Apr 17, 2023 9:52:52 GMT
That’s a real shame. I must say that my pre-owned buying experiences have been good and I’ve never been hung out to dry yet! I recon he must have know that it was duff. I suppose it can put you off buying when something like that happens. UBC wer supposed to be the good guys so it just makes you wonder.
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Post by ifield on Apr 17, 2023 9:54:21 GMT
Sorry to hear that
It is nevertheless one of the most beautiful 1911s
which I have already seen
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Post by guitarman on Apr 17, 2023 10:13:28 GMT
The faulty one isn't the one in the photo., that's my existing one that I gave the 'distressed' finish to.
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Post by guitarman on Apr 17, 2023 10:20:49 GMT
That’s a real shame. I must say that my pre-owned buying experiences have been good and I’ve never been hung out to dry yet! I recon he must have know that it was duff. I suppose it can put you off buying when something like that happens. UBC wer supposed to be the good guys so it just makes you wonder. Well, with the best will in the world, I can't help but feel that he must have had at least some knowledge of the issues, if as he stated, he'd put 2 magazines through it prior to despatch and I experienced them after the first few shots! Just one of those things, I suppose. UBC are generally 'the good guys' and I've got to know several of the members/mods. on there, really well over the years. Prior to this, the only sales problem on there that I've had, was an item not being 'quite' as mint as described.....but nothing like this 1911! |
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Post by twodoctors on Apr 17, 2023 10:31:32 GMT
It's a bit shit when someone sells a faulty gun. Absolutely no moral in my view.
I would have described your experience on UBC if I were you. Someone once said to me that it's safer to buy off forums because people like to maintain their reputation on forums. Clearly not the case here. At least you are getting a partial refund.
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Post by HeadHunter on Apr 17, 2023 11:39:04 GMT
That TFW 1911 has just arrived and on initial inspection, looks even better than those photos in the UBC ad. I'm not a fan of those plain-finish wood grips, so I'll probably be selling those on, same for the 2 holsters. Having a spare magazine will be really useful. Going to have to make my mind up whether I should give the pistol a similar distressed finish as my other one (see photo. below), or maybe just polish the outer barrel and ejection port cover. What do you think... D3D3733A-C7A0-4DA0-9C7B-6E6D39610C93_1_201_a by stephen davies, on Flickr Oh dear.....! Further to this post, I've had a chance to test fire the pistol and sadly, it's pristine looks just flatter to deceive..... After the initial 3 shots, I felt that the trigger hadn't re-set and didn't fire, so I had to slightly depress/release it a second time, upon which it fired rather unexpectedly! This pattern continued, every few shots throughout that first magazine, but that was by no means the only little surprise the pistol had in store for me, oh no...... Soldiering on with a 2nd mag., putting the pistol down for some reason, with the hammer cocked, I engaged the safety. Picking the it up again to re-commence shooting, I slipped the safety off and upon doing so, it fired of its own accord, without me touching the trigger! Mega scary and very fortunate that the BB missed my kitchen window! Trying to get to the bottom of this quite frightening phenomenon, I investigated further. I discovered that, for some reason, if the safety was engaged with the pistol cocked AND if you inadvertently even slightly depressed the trigger/strap safety, upon releasing the frame safety, the pistol fired on its own. Not good at all chaps.... Anyway, contact with the seller about this issue was met with a not unexpected response of, "Well, like you asked me to do, I tested the pistol with 2 magazines prior to despatch and it held gas & cycled perfectly." I politely maintained that this did not tally with my experience of it, a scant 48 hours later and unless these faults had mysteriously developed in transit, something didn't really ring true. To cut a long (and disappointing) story short, we had a somewhat long and often frank (!) exchange over the course of the next day and the result was a part refund that was as mutually satisfactory in the circumstances as it could be. Well, I don't think that I have the expertise to remedy these rather alarming 'quirks,' so I think that I'll probably be advertising it, accurately described, as a 'spares-or-repair' project. Shame....... Not good news, not good news at all ! I do have a possible solution though, bear with the overly long description but it may well help. 1911s have a connecting bar that connects the trigger to the hammer (via two sets of sears) and the safety block enacts on this connector bar. If the safety has got an overly excessive untrimmed flashing on it, as you activate the safety to block the connector from moving it'll push it slightly so that it will cause the hammer sears to go into a 'hair trigger' state. The obvious cure for this is to remove and check the safety for such 'excessive' flashing. The three fingered spring that sits in the backstrap needs to be checked too, as this is there just to prevent such a thing from happening in the first place, my guess is that one or two of the fingers on the spring needs to be pushed forward slightly so that it has proper engagement on to the connector bar and trigger to give a more positive reset. The above options are obviously time consuming but are cost free options prior to moving the gun on at a possible loss to yourself. I personally would bet money on it being excessive flash on the safety that's causing the 'hair trigger when taken off safety' problem and that's something that it would have come from the factory like rather than a past user error, but that still does not let him (the seller) off the hook as it would have been just as faulty prior to the sale. The other possibility is that he (the seller) had tried using those God awful frangible BBs in it and part of one (or more) is now lodged within the lock work and interfering with the action, in which case it'll just need a full strip down and clean, again time consuming but another cost free option. Me ? I'd strip it down, clean, visually inspect the sears, lubricate and reassemble......but then again I love rolling my sleeves up and getting stuck into some serious pistol smithing, okay tinkering, lol. |
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Post by guitarman on Apr 17, 2023 12:53:11 GMT
It's a bit shit when someone sells a faulty gun. Absolutely no moral in my view. I would have described your experience on UBC if I were you. Someone once said to me that it's safer to buy off forums because people like to maintain their reputation on forums. Clearly not the case here. At least you are getting a partial refund. I agree Adrian. I should point out that the seller eventually offered to take the pistol back for "examination of the problem" prior to a full refund. However, due to my trust in him being somewhat diminished (!) I was a bit reluctant to return it to him and hope that I was refunded. As he'd claimed that the pistol was in FWO prior to despatch, there was a possibility that upon its return to him, he could still maintain that he couldn't find fault with it and I'd then be even more in the hole..... As I say, we eventually reached a reasonable compromise about reimbursement and although nothing was stated, I assumed that the offer was tacitly made in the hope that I wouldn't besmirch his reputation on the UBC. In any event, I really abhor those slanging matches that you sometimes see taking place on certain forums. Tends to put me off participating on threads and spoils the enjoyment. |
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Post by guitarman on Apr 17, 2023 12:59:22 GMT
Oh dear.....! Further to this post, I've had a chance to test fire the pistol and sadly, it's pristine looks just flatter to deceive..... After the initial 3 shots, I felt that the trigger hadn't re-set and didn't fire, so I had to slightly depress/release it a second time, upon which it fired rather unexpectedly! This pattern continued, every few shots throughout that first magazine, but that was by no means the only little surprise the pistol had in store for me, oh no...... Soldiering on with a 2nd mag., putting the pistol down for some reason, with the hammer cocked, I engaged the safety. Picking the it up again to re-commence shooting, I slipped the safety off and upon doing so, it fired of its own accord, without me touching the trigger! Mega scary and very fortunate that the BB missed my kitchen window! Trying to get to the bottom of this quite frightening phenomenon, I investigated further. I discovered that, for some reason, if the safety was engaged with the pistol cocked AND if you inadvertently even slightly depressed the trigger/strap safety, upon releasing the frame safety, the pistol fired on its own. Not good at all chaps.... Anyway, contact with the seller about this issue was met with a not unexpected response of, "Well, like you asked me to do, I tested the pistol with 2 magazines prior to despatch and it held gas & cycled perfectly." I politely maintained that this did not tally with my experience of it, a scant 48 hours later and unless these faults had mysteriously developed in transit, something didn't really ring true. To cut a long (and disappointing) story short, we had a somewhat long and often frank (!) exchange over the course of the next day and the result was a part refund that was as mutually satisfactory in the circumstances as it could be. Well, I don't think that I have the expertise to remedy these rather alarming 'quirks,' so I think that I'll probably be advertising it, accurately described, as a 'spares-or-repair' project. Shame....... Not good news, not good news at all ! I do have a possible solution though, bear with the overly long description but it may well help. 1911s have a connecting bar that connects the trigger to the hammer (via two sets of sears) and the safety block enacts on this connector bar. If the safety has got an overly excessive untrimmed flashing on it, as you activate the safety to block the connector from moving it'll push it slightly so that it will cause the hammer sears to go into a 'hair trigger' state. The obvious cure for this is to remove and check the safety for such 'excessive' flashing. The three fingered spring that sits in the backstrap needs to be checked too, as this is there just to prevent such a thing from happening in the first place, my guess is that one or two of the fingers on the spring needs to be pushed forward slightly so that it has proper engagement on to the connector bar and trigger to give a more positive reset. The above options are obviously time consuming but are cost free options prior to moving the gun on at a possible loss to yourself. I personally would bet money on it being excessive flash on the safety that's causing the 'hair trigger when taken off safety' problem and that's something that it would have come from the factory like rather than a past user error, but that still does not let him (the seller) off the hook as it would have been just as faulty prior to the sale. The other possibility is that he (the seller) had tried using those God awful frangible BBs in it and part of one (or more) is now lodged within the lock work and interfering with the action, in which case it'll just need a full strip down and clean, again time consuming but another cost free option. Me ? I'd strip it down, clean, visually inspect the sears, lubricate and reassemble......but then again I love rolling my sleeves up and getting stuck into some serious pistol smithing, okay tinkering, lol. Thanks for that Shaun. I think that I can get my 74 year old head around what your saying! Could you expand a bit by what you refer to as "excessive untrimmed flashing" please? Can't help it, but what immediately sprung to mind was a furtive, uncircumcised character, opening his raincoat to unsuspecting females......! Do hope that you'll excuse this weak attempt at humour, as after all, I have had a rather miserable week-end! |
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