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Post by ERIC D on Sept 30, 2022 11:39:40 GMT
Hi I have acquired a Remington 1911 when i loaded it with a gas canister but gas leaked out I tightened magazine as much as I could but gas still leaked out so I presume it needs new seals.
The question is are they easy to replace in this pistol and if so where do i get the seals from and do I need any tools. Like I said it has got to be very easy to do Or should I take it to my dealer to do it. Many Thanks
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Post by flatrajectory on Sept 30, 2022 11:52:28 GMT
Eric,
Co2 guns leak .... fact. Something we have to live with. There are a couple of places it could be leaking from ...
1.It could be leaking from the seal around the piercing pin. If you remove the co2 bulb and look down inside the magazine ,you will see the piercer and its seal... the seal is usually white. Does it look ok.? Also sometimes the bushing that holds the piercer can start to unscrew, so first thing is to get a big slotted screwdriver and see if it needs tightening... beware...a lot of the 1911 piercing bushes have a left hand thread , so try turning it both ways.
If that is all good then it leaking from the valve at the top of the magazine... the one the firing pin hits .
If its a slow leak you can gas it up and dunk it in a bucket of water... this will show up as bubbles from the seal that is leaking.
You may be able to get seal kits/ new valves from NM products.
Pete..
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Post by HeadHunter on Sept 30, 2022 16:30:14 GMT
Eric, Pete's advice is good advice. Unfortunately leaking CO2 valves, piercing nozzles, etc. can be a pain but nothing that cannot be undertaken by any competent shooter.
Over tightening seals can lead to major problems that normally can only be resolved by a seal change but before that you can soak the seal in pellgun oil (or even better that stuff I sent you a good while back) and leave it for 24-48hrs and then try again. Once the gas bulb has been pierced it doesn't take much more to just 'nip' it up, sometimes less is more and a heavy hand can cause more damage than a timid hand.
Is the gun secondhand or brand new ?
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Post by TerribleTuco on Sept 30, 2022 16:43:29 GMT
Eric, Co2 guns leak .... fact. Something we have to live with. There are a couple of places it could be leaking from ... 1.It could be leaking from the seal around the piercing pin. If you remove the co2 bulb and look down inside the magazine ,you will see the piercer and its seal... the seal is usually white. Does it look ok.? Also sometimes the bushing that holds the piercer can start to unscrew, so first thing is to get a big slotted screwdriver and see if it needs tightening... beware...a lot of the 1911 piercing bushes have a left hand thread , so try turning it both ways. If that is all good then it leaking from the valve at the top of the magazine... the one the firing pin hits . If its a slow leak you can gas it up and dunk it in a bucket of water... this will show up as bubbles from the seal that is leaking. You may be able to get seal kits/ new valves from NM products. Pete.. flatrajectory..... Is it easier to just replace that piercing seal alone, or easier to replace the entire bushing ? Also, can the seal (only) be replaced without removing the bushing ? Thanks ! |
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Post by HeadHunter on Sept 30, 2022 16:46:08 GMT
Eric, Co2 guns leak .... fact. Something we have to live with. There are a couple of places it could be leaking from ... 1.It could be leaking from the seal around the piercing pin. If you remove the co2 bulb and look down inside the magazine ,you will see the piercer and its seal... the seal is usually white. Does it look ok.? Also sometimes the bushing that holds the piercer can start to unscrew, so first thing is to get a big slotted screwdriver and see if it needs tightening... beware...a lot of the 1911 piercing bushes have a left hand thread , so try turning it both ways. If that is all good then it leaking from the valve at the top of the magazine... the one the firing pin hits . If its a slow leak you can gas it up and dunk it in a bucket of water... this will show up as bubbles from the seal that is leaking. You may be able to get seal kits/ new valves from NM products. Pete.. flatrajectory..... Is it easier to just replace that piercing seal alone, or easier to replace the entire bushing ? Also, can the seal (only) be replaced without removing the bushing ? Thanks ! To get to the seal the bushing needs to come out. |
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Post by TerribleTuco on Oct 1, 2022 3:50:01 GMT
flatrajectory..... Is it easier to just replace that piercing seal alone, or easier to replace the entire bushing ? Also, can the seal (only) be replaced without removing the bushing ? Thanks ! To get to the seal the bushing needs to come out. Thanks HH. It just unscrews...correct ? I have a valve removal tool. Just re- install the entire new bushing with new seal ? |
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Post by flatrajectory on Oct 1, 2022 7:22:10 GMT
The bushing unscrews, yes... be aware it may be left hand threaded. Replace the seal, but be aware the bushing itself is sealed aound its perimiter with an O ring which may need replacement also, but generally they will just need lubing.
Its all simple and common sense.
Pete.
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Post by ERIC D on Oct 1, 2022 12:23:08 GMT
Thanks for all the replies guys the pistol is second hand and I will try the water btest first and come back to you guys to tell where the leek is coming from the little white disc at the bottom looks fine
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Post by ERIC D on Oct 1, 2022 16:53:56 GMT
Well have tried and tested for leaks and saw bubbles coming out the top so I Decided To release some pressure slowly and leave it until it empted a few seconds later I checked it and could not hear any escaping gas I checked to see if there was any more gas in the cylinder there was plenty so done the gas up again then it stopped leaking So what is going on?? when testing leaks in the first place the bubbles where coming out at the top of the magazine
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Post by HeadHunter on Oct 1, 2022 18:26:33 GMT
Well have tried and tested for leaks and saw bubbles coming out the top so I Decided To release some pressure slowly and leave it until it empted a few seconds later I checked it and could not hear any escaping gas I checked to see if there was any more gas in the cylinder there was plenty so done the gas up again then it stopped leaking So what is going on?? when testing leaks in the first place the bubbles where coming out at the top of the magazine Sometimes the internal valve can get stuck slightly open from debris and dirt getting caught in the valve faces, sometimes it just gets blown out other times it just needs stripping down, cleaning and re-assembling. Hopefully you've managed to get it working properly again buddy  |
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Post by flatrajectory on Oct 1, 2022 18:44:43 GMT
One thing any co2 shooter needs to know is that if you haven`t used said weapon for a while the seals can shrink a little. Next time you gas it up you can hear a hissssss. The best thing to do is immediately load the magazine ( without ammo) into the gun and fire it off several times. Most times the new influx of liquid will seal it again.
Pete.
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Post by flatrajectory on Oct 1, 2022 18:48:53 GMT
Also, and this applies to both co2 and pcp air guns ... if the gun is working, do not take it apart... the old adage is true.!
I get a few requests form gun club members with pcp`s asking me to service their rifles once a year... I refuse. .If it ain`t broke don`t fix it.
My pcp ( cheap Chinese one) has not been touched in 5 years.... works perfectly, so no need to mess it up.
Pete,
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Post by ERIC D on Oct 3, 2022 16:51:37 GMT
Thanks Guys now fixed I Think the Co2 gas capsule was not sitting right. Right on to something silly you know a few mths ago a guy was making a 1911 magazine loader when i got mine I could not make mine it just would not pull the spring down I thought I would try again today then I CLICKED !! you had to pull the spring a tiny bit for the rod of the loader could grip the top of the loader no problem just feed bbs though the hole HAPPY DAYS! Stupied Boy this could be down to what Dave is suffering from on his right shoulder I have got the tingling going all down my right shoulder but very bad pain down on the shoulder the only thing i can say its like a very bad toothache but on your shoulder at one time it made me cry it was that painful at the moment I am taking CO- Codamol pain killers and other pills which try and sort the pain and it includes stuff that makes you sleep the trouble wit that it makes you sleep during the day as well!!. I just hope I can get this sorted in the end as I am not to happy taking Codamol as you can get addicted to them |
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Post by HeadHunter on Oct 3, 2022 17:42:02 GMT
Thanks Guys now fixed I Think the Co2 gas capsule was not sitting right. Right on to something silly you know a few mths ago a guy was making a 1911 magazine loader when i got mine I could not make mine it just would not pull the spring down I thought I would try again today then I CLICKED !! you had to pull the spring a tiny bit for the rod of the loader could grip the top of the loader no problem just feed bbs though the hole HAPPY DAYS! Stupied Boy this could be down to what Dave is suffering from on his right shoulder I have got the tingling going all down my right shoulder but very bad pain down on the shoulder the only thing i can say its like a very bad toothache but on your shoulder at one time it made me cry it was that painful at the moment I am taking CO- Codamol pain killers and other pills which try and sort the pain and it includes stuff that makes you sleep the trouble wit that it makes you sleep during the day as well!!. I just hope I can get this sorted in the end as I am not to happy taking Codamol as you can get addicted to them I've been taking cocodamol for about 18 months now and I never got addicted, I've stopped now as I'm waiting for them to remove the ol' gall bladder (simple out patient keyhole surgery), I wouldn't worry too much about cocodamols as I think it's only people that get really silly with them that seem to get addicted. |
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Post by talyllyn on Oct 3, 2022 20:41:07 GMT
Co-codamol and paracetamol at the same time can soon result in liver damage due to the paracetamol. Just an extra couple of paracetamol a day will result in liver damage. The higher strength (30/500) co-codamol tablet are usually the ones that some people get addicted to.
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