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Post by CaptDAR on Mar 24, 2021 22:46:47 GMT
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Post by CaptDAR on Mar 24, 2021 22:48:19 GMT
It’s not just alleged Adrian. Both Shaun and me proved it with extensive chrono testing.
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Post by twodoctors on Mar 24, 2021 22:50:25 GMT
Great! Looks like that grommet is the culprit then. Perhaps try refitting it correctly and see if it works better? There is a notch at one corner that correspond to the notch on the frame. Should be intuitive. If there isn't, or is difficult to fit, then the seal is wrong (typing from experience). Good luck! i didn't take the valve out, you need to, to get rest of the grommet off. it looks to like that notch kind of a ramp for the cylinder swings in? I You'll need to undo 2 screws to free the valve assembly. The "trouble" is if the trigger spring is out of position it may be tricky to put it all back unless you know which parts go where. Be warn! In truth you don't need to remove everything completely to fit the grommet. And the trigger can come off in "one piece" and drop straight back in if you are careful. If you are stuck, just come back here. I'm sure HeadHunter or I will be able to create a disassembly guide just for you.
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Post by canadianguy57 on Mar 24, 2021 23:00:07 GMT
You'll need to undo 2 screws to free the valve assembly. The "trouble" is if the trigger spring is out of position it may be tricky to put it all back unless you know which parts go where. Be warn! In truth you don't need to remove everything completely to fit the grommet. And the trigger can come off in "one piece" and drop straight back in if you are careful. If you are stuck, just come back here. I'm sure HeadHunter or I will be able to create a disassembly guide just for you. You don't have to take the valve off to get the rest of seal off or u do? Be honest I didn't want to go any farther, you have to take that paw off and the bar to take the valve out? Was the only thing i didn't do.
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Post by twodoctors on Mar 24, 2021 23:02:22 GMT
You don't have to take it off completely, just loosening it is enough when I did mine. If you are not confident then best leave it to someone else who is. Last thing you want is to have a bag of parts instead of a previously working gun. HeadHunter did say he was planning on writing a disassembly guide for the 715. He's the High Priest, so I'll leave that to him!
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Post by HeadHunter on Mar 24, 2021 23:07:16 GMT
You'll need to undo 2 screws to free the valve assembly. The "trouble" is if the trigger spring is out of position it may be tricky to put it all back unless you know which parts go where. Be warn! In truth you don't need to remove everything completely to fit the grommet. And the trigger can come off in "one piece" and drop straight back in if you are careful. If you are stuck, just come back here. I'm sure HeadHunter or I will be able to create a disassembly guide just for you. You don't have to take the valve off to get the rest of seal off or u do? Be honest I didn't want to go any farther, you have to take that paw off and the bar to take the valve out? Was the only thing i didn't do. You've gone this far already buddy, might as well go the whole 10 yards and do the rest. It's nowhere near as difficult as you would think and once it's done, it's done ! You can tick that box and move on, then you can get on with shooting it....
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Post by canadianguy57 on Mar 24, 2021 23:13:33 GMT
You don't have to take the valve off to get the rest of seal off or u do? Be honest I didn't want to go any farther, you have to take that paw off and the bar to take the valve out? Was the only thing i didn't do. You've gone this far already buddy, might as well go the whole 10 yards and do the rest. It's nowhere near as difficult as you would think and once it's done, it's done ! You can tick that box and move on, then you can get on with shooting it.... I'm waiting for the hammer spring and seals get here, seals this week.
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Post by HeadHunter on Mar 24, 2021 23:24:41 GMT
I've just checked tracking and the hammer springs left Heathrow airport (London) on Friday so they should be with you shortly, fingers crossed...
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Post by canadianguy57 on Mar 30, 2021 17:06:55 GMT
Hi guys! Today the seal got here and i was able to install it and the new Hammer spring. Everything now is smooth like my pellet, so it was the seal!
I took the safety out because i couldn't see how it went back.
I still have a wobbly hammer and it seems to bounce some, or it seems like it's bouncing from the wobble of the hammer. The bouncing isn't because the safety is out or will it straighten out when I shim the hammer?
What are you guys using for shims? Do you shim both sides or just one?
I'm very happy now!
Greg
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Post by twodoctors on Mar 30, 2021 17:17:24 GMT
I took the safety off line because there is no safety on a revolver. I like to "keep it real". 🤦♂️
If you want to put it back it goes just behind the hammer. It works like a toggle switch. There should be a hole for the pivot on the safety switch itself. No springs etc.
Glad it is working for you. Personally I would ignore the play on the hammer. Just enjoy shooting it!
Adrian
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Post by canadianguy57 on Mar 30, 2021 17:27:29 GMT
Yeah i see where it came from, but didn't find where the other end was against.
I would like to know about the shimming? I can take some wobble but I think for me It's to wobbly, it's almost like a 16th..
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Post by HeadHunter on Mar 30, 2021 18:43:36 GMT
Yeah i see where it came from, but didn't find where the other end was against. I would like to know about the shimming? I can take some wobble but I think for me It's to wobbly, it's almost like a 16th.. I've never shimmed the hammer so unfortunately I can't help you out buddy, there's a very small amount of end play in all of my DW715 hammers, even the brand new ones have it, albeit only slightly.
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Post by canadianguy57 on Mar 30, 2021 18:53:07 GMT
Well i wish I could post a short video clip. They can't be as loose as this one lol?, pick it up and swing the gun just slightly and it rattles, my other one has play but not like this.
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Post by HeadHunter on Mar 30, 2021 19:21:01 GMT
Well i wish I could post a short video clip. They can't be as loose as this one lol?, pick it up and swing the gun just slightly and it rattles, my other one has play but not like this. Oh that doesn't sound right, trying to think of where the play would be and obviously, how to correct it. If you're in the mood for a bit of investigation you could always swap both hammers over and see if the problem moves with the hammer or stays with the gun, that way by a process of elimination we could find the 'offending' part that's causing the play. if it turns out to be the hammer, then as you've got both out of each gun put them side by side and play 'spot the difference', see if you can spot the wear point. You might be able to get a replacement hammer if that's what's needed, at least you'd know where the problem lies buddy.
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Post by canadianguy57 on Mar 30, 2021 19:39:28 GMT
I know where the play is, I did try a delrin seal but was a little to thick. I'll sand them down, i also have a couple of thinner metal from a 2240 ones that could work if it fits over the pin.
I have lot's of time on my hands now, Iv'e been laid off pretty much when this pandemic hit.
That's a fantastic idea! That's why your the Head Honcho lol I love the name.
i noticed you might only be able to shim from the opposite side other then against the plate side.
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I took the plate off and tried to shim, anything I did, both sides, one side or, different thickness. Either the plate won't go on right and the one time it did it didn't sound right, when you pulled the trigger. so as far as I can see there is no room to shim. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Very weird, now it doesn't have the biggle wiggle and not hammer clicking when you swing the gun anymore.
So it worked out!
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