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Post by gunman1964 on Oct 18, 2023 17:13:01 GMT
I have just purchased a Walther PPK/S from someone and i wondered if anyone on here had any idea of the manufacturer. it looks at first glance like an umarex but im not sure it is as it has a dummy safety on both sides of the slide, the valve is silver not black, the grip panels are different and there are no logos or trdes on it like there is on the Umarex ...... any ideas guys ? I havnt received it yet as its in the post, i have 2 umarex ones so this will be number 3
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Post by Modski66 on Oct 18, 2023 19:56:55 GMT
Is it a Chimera? 😉
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Post by gunman1964 on Oct 18, 2023 20:23:55 GMT
i have no idea what make it is .... i cant find one that looks like it on the net anywhere
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Post by HeadHunter on Oct 19, 2023 10:58:41 GMT
I've never seen any CO2 powered in 4.5mm other than the Umarex ones
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Post by gunman1964 on Oct 19, 2023 11:11:53 GMT
Ive even looked at the 6mm Airsoft versions but ive still found nothing that resembles this one .....
i will wait til it gets here and post up a few more pics and hopefully i can find a bit more info
i like the look of this and like the fact it has a working safety
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Post by flatrajectory on Oct 19, 2023 15:35:46 GMT
I have had a couple of ' no name'. PPK pistols through my workshop , and both were made of alloy so soft I could almost hear it wear ..! Caveat Emptor Andy. I hope you got a good one. Pete.
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Post by gunman1964 on Oct 19, 2023 17:00:11 GMT
I have had a couple of ' no name'. PPK pistols through my workshop , and both were made of alloy so soft I could almost hear it wear ..! Caveat Emptor Andy. I hope you got a good one. Pete. It wouldnt bother me if it didnt work ...... ive got 2 Umarex PPKs neither of which worked 100% and needed fixing They are beyond a doubt the most dissapointig replica i have owned so far .... from what i have gathered they are riddled with problems from frames breaking to blowback not working to seals leaking not very reliable at all so i wont be suprised if this is the same as the other two were when i got them mate something ti tinker with when im up and running again lol
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Post by flatrajectory on Oct 19, 2023 19:20:33 GMT
Yes I agree with that. I have scrapped about 8 of them this year with bent frames.... utter sh**.
Pete.
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Post by Modski66 on Oct 20, 2023 5:55:02 GMT
Yes I agree with that. I have scrapped about 8 of them this year with bent frames.... utter sh**. Pete. I hope you kept all the useable spares Pete!
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Post by gunman1964 on Oct 20, 2023 7:33:26 GMT
Yes I agree with that. I have scrapped about 8 of them this year with bent frames.... utter sh**. Pete. I hope you kept all the useable spares Pete! Unfortunately it seems that ALL of these inherit the same problems ... so its the same parts that are broken/worn out usually the frame but also problems with the blowback not working correctly so the gun doesnt cock .... i have also noticed the fact that the shots are not consistently powerful i think its due to the firing pin wearing and not striking the valve correctly
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Post by flatrajectory on Oct 20, 2023 9:33:26 GMT
Yes I agree with that. I have scrapped about 8 of them this year with bent frames.... utter sh**. Pete. I hope you kept all the useable spares Pete! I did, but they usually all have the same faults , as Andy says. Pile of POO imho.
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Post by gunman1964 on Oct 29, 2023 9:18:23 GMT
i know that the umarex ppk/s is loaded with problems but i still want one in my collection .... i have just got hold of this one , i dont think it is made by Umarex as it has (what i think) are some improvements . The allen screw that pushes up the co2 bulb in the bottom of the handle to allow it to pierce is a much smaller diameter which means it doesnt compromise the frame so much when tightening, a much smaller allen key is needed though. The outer barrel is metal where as the umarex one is plastic . The grips, slide and trigger guard are also different and i think look good. Overall its deffinately based on the Umarex , i will at some point tear it down and take a closer look at the insides to see what parts interchange
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Post by gunman1964 on Nov 21, 2023 13:58:49 GMT
Problem solved i think ...... ive been informed that this little 4.5mm ppk/s was made for Airsoft Elite by Monda intl
i must say they did a slightly better job of it than Umarex did ..... i have 2 Umarex ones so will have to see what parts are interchangeable
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Post by HeadHunter on Nov 22, 2023 7:29:39 GMT
The improvements they have made to this version does make this a better and more reliable replica (IMHO), I can see the logic behind them especially the resized CO2 piercing screw and the metal barrel is a bloody good idea too.
Now if they just took it a step further and fitted a full size drop free magazine (a la SIG P365 style) I'd be looking at getting one myself.
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Post by gunman1964 on Nov 22, 2023 10:00:39 GMT
The improvements they have made to this version does make this a better and more reliable replica (IMHO), I can see the logic behind them especially the resized CO2 piercing screw and the metal barrel is a bloody good idea too. Now if they just took it a step further and fitted a full size drop free magazine ( a la SIG P365 style) I'd be looking at getting one myself. I think this is actually an older model PPK/S and since i cant find much information on the internet about it i presume they are no longer made. Pity as it seems half descent
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